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Letter to Kofos by World Pan-Macedonian Associations

Thursday, November 11, 2010

A Critique of Consequence

Concerns over the feasibility of special advisor to ELIAMEP Dr. E. Kofos's suggestions for a solution to the Macedonian naming dispute between Athens and Skopje

November 2010

Dear Dr. Kofos,

In regards to the Rose-Routh seminar you gave in Skopje on October 20, 2010 at NATO's Parliamentary Assembly vis-à-vis the imbroglio Greece has with its northern neighbor, and in regards to recent news reports coming out of Skopje attributed to you, we the Worldwide Pan-Macedonian Associations would like to offer you our comments. We feel that the Pan-Macedonian Associations, as the bastions of Hellenism in Macedonia, should be an important voice and an inseparable figure in the academic, political, and historical discussions on the name issue with our neighbor. We are the representatives of millions of Macedonians in Greece and the Diaspora; we are diachronic, and independent of all political parties.

We respect your efforts over the last five decades in dealing with Skopje's Macedonism however we must strongly object to the ideas that you and your colleagues in ELIAMEP have promoted to the citizens in Greece and the Diaspora, to various foreign ministers of the Hellenic Republic, and most recently to politicians and journalists in Skopje.  

Throughout your thesis you un-necessarily refer to that state as.....
“Republika Makedonija” instead of FYROM. By doing so you are legitimizing their claims to be called “Republika Makedonija”. Calling them as such you are describing them in the context they want to be perceived.

The problem with a separate geographic qualifier for the name of a country:

The geographical qualifier that is suggested in your thesis will ultimately be disastrous for Greece because it implies that there is a whole entity named Macedonia that is geographically divided - by force as is taught in the FYROM. Need anyone be reminded that “Vardarska Makedonija” was born from Pan-Slavic irredentism? You leave the door open for us to continue to be “Egejska Makedonija” in their eyes - just another geographic region of...Macedonia under occupation. Their country will be a STATE and Greece will only have a region that supposedly will be in another sphere geopolitically. By suggesting a geographic qualifier, you are subjecting the 2.5 million Macedonian Greeks to continued dangers. Apart from wondering why there is a need for a qualifier, we publicly ask why you suggest that there needs to be a geographic qualifier for them and an ethnic qualifier for us. Are they not Slavs as we are Greeks? Finally any name that has a separate qualifier from “Makedonija/Macedonia” will be dropped and Makedonija/Macedonia” will be the finality. This has happened already with “the FYROM”: “FYR” is also a separate qualifier and Skopje has broken countless times the Interim Accord they signed in the quest to circumvent it and unilaterally push for “Republika Makedonija”. For just a single example, one has to look at the old flag that still adorns practically every social, political, and religious gathering in the State and its Diaspora – something that is against the Interim Accord.

Instead of creating “Macedonian” identities in Skopje at NATO’s Parliamentary Assembly you should have told them in no uncertain terms that no state should be allowed to use a term ethnologically that belongs to another nation culturally and historically for centuries. In our case it should be perceived as an obvious attempt to appropriate everything Macedonian.

Solutions to a breakthrough, or creation of a linguistic labyrinth?

With all due respect, we would like to critique your views as advisor to ELIAMEP and the Greek government. In your essay for ELIAMEP titled “The Current Macedonian Issue between Athens and Skopje: Is there an Option for a Breakthrough?”, and in your Rose-Routh Seminar speech in Skopje last month, you propose “food for thought” for future “aspirant mediators” on the issue and suggest a complex legalistic approach which is difficult to follow by international bodies let alone by the common person. Apart from the name of the country, you suggest that a possible solution would be to use the Slavic terms in an un-translated and non-transliterated form for the name of their ethnicity, language, and culture. The noun would be “Makedontsi” and the adjective would be “Makedonski” from the Slavic/Bulgarian language. For the Greek terms you state that “Makedones” for the noun, and “Makedonikos” for the adjective “might apply” and you suggest that these also should be transferred into other languages as is. However, in the Rose-Routh Seminar you go ahead and transliterate some of them using Slavic suffixes: “makedonsko vino” for their wine (in Italian/Spanish) as if the world should learn to inflect adjectives in Slavic!

Furthermore, we need not remind you that in Slavic, the gender suffixes are -ski (male), -ska (female), and -sko (neutral) for the adjectives. Additionally, the plural noun is “Makedontsi” but the singular is “Makedonets”. As you are aware, Greek also has gender suffixes for nouns as well for adjectives. You are unclear if all or just one of the Slavic/Greek suffixes and the plural/singular cases for each language should be used . Are you suggesting that the world learns how to inflect in Slavic and Greek or are you suggesting that these terms be copy-pasted everywhere thus disregarding the delicate linguistic rules that define a language? More specifically, is ELIAMEP prepared to create new grammatical and linguistic rules for all languages of the world? In English it is easier as there are no genders for nouns, and adjectives are not inflected but you can't only rely on the English perspective especially for languages which are highly inflected and their adjectival form possesses various cases. On the other hand, the phrase “the Makedonskianization of new immigrants” sounds tongue-tied and ridiculous even in English.

Even so, will the English say “the makedoniki woman” or will they say “the makedonikan woman” for the woman from Greece's north? In English will it be“the makedonski book ” or “the makedosko book” - or will the suffix be applied only to languages that inflect? If it is the former, then you are suggesting that the world learn Slavic, if it is the latter then you are suggesting that some languages replace their own suffixes for the Slavic ones. How on Earth could a Greek express a phrase such as “tis Makedonskikis protevousas” (“of the Makedonski capital”)? Will it be that - or the grammatically incorrect “tis Makedonski protevousas”? How would a Greek pronounce the term “the Makedontsi”? Will it become “oi Makedonstides” for men and “oi Makedontsisses” for women - or will it simply be the grammatically incorrect “oi Makedontsi”? How is ELIAMEP going to teach and ensure that the French would say “la capitale Makedonski et le vin Makedonski” instead of  “la capitale Makedonskienne et le vin Makedonskien”? Similarly, will the French say “les Makedontsi” for both genders instead of “les Makedontsiens” for men, and “les Makedontsiennes” for women?

Furthermore, there is also the problem of the plural and singular forms of the Slavic noun “Makedonsti”. The silliness is highlighted in the Spanish version of the phrase: “We went to the Makedonski(an?) capital of Skopje and we met many Makedonsti(an?) children and an older Makedonets during a conference for Makedonski(an?) youth.” “Viajamos al capital Skopje y en contramos los muchos niños Makedontsis y a la otra gente Makedonets qui atendieron una conferencia de juventud Makedonski.

Finally, we want to know what will happen to the established term “Macedonian” that has been used throughout history (from ancient until current time) to describe the northern Greeks, including yourself. You mention this as the “fourth dimension”  in your thesis yet you offer no solution for this. One hundred years from now, when someone is reading Plutarch, Hammond, and Dakin  among others in English, will they know the term?

You have mentioned in your ELIAMEP thesis that once the two sides agree, they will jointly ask the world to adopt these linguistic rules. The problem with this is that while ELIAMEP would think they gave the solution to the problem and enjoy the congratulations of the world, the Skopjans will make absolutely sure that the media outside their country use the term “Macedonian” and not “Makedonski”.  It is our strong opinion that it is virtually impossible to impose this internationally, and ensure that Skopje will not promote to change it.We have highlighted this in various languages to make it clear that we believe Skopje will reject this cumbersome new linguistic entity and implore that everyone call them “Macedonian” – and a linguistically exasperated world will agree. The same thing has been done with the equally cumbersome “the FYROM”. We would ask you to be clear on all concepts above because we are honestly confused.

Historical inaccuracies: 

Dr. Kofos, you erroneously imply that the name issue between Athens and Skopje is somehow a continuum of the “Macedonian question” of over 100 years ago. You do mention that the “traditional” question as you called it was over territory but you fail to mention who was contesting the territory. You thus give the impression to third parties that Greeks fought “Macedonians” for control of “Macedonia” and this is historically wrong. As the Treaty of Bucharest 1913 can attest to, and as is reported by the Carnegie Report into the Balkan Wars - essentially as history teaches us - it was the Greeks, Bulgarians, and Serbs that each fought over the spoils of the fallen European Ottoman Empire. There was never a Macedonian ethnic identity then. If there was one, the Manifesto of Krushevo would have specified it. All “Macedonian” revolutionary movements were either Greek or Bulgarian, and it was the clash of these two ethnicities (after imperial Russia promoted the break-up of the Ottoman Empire) that defined the apogee of late 19th to early 20th Century Greek history. The current problem has nothing to do with a “Macedonian question”. It is the birthchild of a Pan-Slavic Communist dream that tangibly started in the 1930's and officially in 1944 with Yugoslav expansionist aims.

In addition, there was never a “Vardarska Makedonija” officially. The region of what is the FYROM today started as Paeonia/Dardania in antiquity and ended up as Vardarska Banovina before Josip Broz Tito chose to create the “People's Republic of Macedonia” in 1944. “Vardarksa Makedonija” is the irredentist name used by communists and Macedonists since to imply it is part of a “divided whole”.

Dr. Kofos, Greeks don’t “perceive” that the ancient Macedonian identity is a basic ingredient of our Hellenism - we know it to be through an unbroken Hellenic element and presence in Macedonia since antiquity. Perception is a word that implies a view not necessarily accepted by others. It leaves the door open for the interpretation that it may be a collective delusion. This is argued by Macedonism, which is the actual delusional force that is attempting to usurp everything Macedonian as being non-Greek. Unfortunately for Macedonists, our history is attested to by many and it is official.

Moreover, your statement in Skopje that “Makedones” is the historical name by which the Greek-speaking people of the ancient Macedonian kingdom identified themselves” bewilders us. Were the ancient Macedonians simply Greek-speaking? As you are very much aware, Macedonism teaches its youth that the ancient Macedonians were not Greek and that were simply Greek-speaking or Hellenized. Your speech in Skopje has done nothing but cement this theory. Nearly, 400 classicists of worldwide repute would disagree with you (http://macedonia-evidence.org/obama-letter.html).

The declaration of the Greek people:

The members of the Council of Hellenes Abroad (SAE) in their 2007 Chicago Convention as well as the Hellenic American National Council unanimously adopted the Pan-Macedonian Association’s Resolution regarding the issue of the name of the neighboring state. More recently, AHEPA during their worldwide convention in Montreal, Canada in July 2010 also lent its support to the same Pan-Macedonian resolution. In addition, approximately one hundred Macedonian organizations state that they declare they will not accept the inclusion of the term “Macedonia” in the name of the FYROM. They request that the Greek government abandons its policy of a geographic designation and to include in the negotiations on the question of the name of the country, the issues of its nationality and its language, so that the use of the term “Macedonia” is prevented. They call on the government to reject the opening of accession negotiations between the FYROM, and the EU and NATO respectively, and between the FYROM and other international organizations to which our country has the right of veto, before solving the problems of ethnicity, nationality, and language. Besides these are the views of the vast majority of our compatriots in Greece: All the opinion polls on the name show that the Greeks do not accept the word “Macedonia” in the name of the neighbor.

Legal arguments and Greece's obligation to its people:

We are aware of your arguments that no one can legally impose a nationality or name on a group of individuals and Greece has no legal precedence to request a change in the nationality of our northern neighbors.  It is the reason why ELIAMEP (with your advice) has promoted the idea of un-translated Slavic words for their identity, and of “Vardarska Makedonija” for the name of the country. In other words, you are promoting that they OFFICIALLY call themselves “Macedonian” in their language, and that their country’s name should be a Cold-War anachronism which was first coined by Josip Broz Tito. In other words, nothing has changed since 1944. You therefore believe that we have no legal recourse at all and have been fighting a losing battle and this bothers us greatly. These arguments are the same as what Skopje and its Diaspora use when the argue their points to various international bodies. Our arguments can be more eloquent and completely legally relevant than the concerns you and the recent Greek foreign ministers have raised. Firstly, why should we respect the wishes of a communist dictator that decided to extend “Macedonia” throughout all of Southern Yugoslavia as a means to the future annexation of Greek lands? In reality and as is mentioned in your 2009 thesis for ELIAMEP, it is the original Greek identity of Macedonia that is being mutated over the last 70 years. Where is the legality in this and why haven't you promoted the modern historical truth to them and the world? Secondly, instead of baptizing them and asking them to accept terms which will hardly be internationally recognized by a non-Slavic world, ELIAMEP should be promoting their Slavonic and Bulgarian roots in their quest to find their identity in the modern world. We should not be telling them what they are but we can tell them what they are not based on who we are, and this does have legal precedence.

We wonder just what exactly is ELIAMEP’s goal in all of this? Is it politically and tactically intelligent to offer the olive branch exposing a perceived soft base for the Greek argument, to a government and society that has been taught to hate Hellenism and to question the Hellenism of Macedonia and our identity? Since you are discussing identities, we would like you and ELIAMEP to clarify who has held the Macedonian identity the longest?

As a result, we are transparent in claiming to be the indigenous people of historic Macedonia and have been trying to exercise our rights under Articles 8, 9, 15, and 18 of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples adopted by the UN General Assembly in 2007. We have struggled to maintain our dignity as Macedonians against the intolerance of Skopje's Macedonism for six decades, and we are frustrated by supposedly pro-Greek groups like ELIAMEP, KEMO, and CDRSEE who are all supported monetarily or spiritually by non-Greek organizations and have been advising the Greek government on the matter. This has been happening without the participation and advice of the Macedonian Greeks and the Pan-Macedonian Associations. This is unacceptable and undemocratic. More specifically, Article 18 of the aforementioned UN declaration states very clearly:

Article 18
Indigenous peoples have the right to participate in decision-making in matters which would affect their rights, through representatives chosen by themselves in accordance with their own procedures, as well as to maintain and develop their own indigenous decision-making institutions.

Who has elected ELIAMEP to represent us in this process? Why are we constantly avoided and branded as intolerant nationalists when we object to the machinations of groups such as the ones you are affiliated with? The Greek State has the obligation to promote the wishes of the Macedonian Greeks, and to educate the rest of the world about our identity. This is also very clearly stated in Article 15.1 of the UN declaration:

Article 15
1. Indigenous peoples have the right to the dignity and diversity of their cultures, traditions, histories and aspirations which shall be appropriately reflected in education and public information.

Dr. Kofos, there is no power and certainly no ELIAMEP supported by George Soros’s Open Societies and other non-Greek sources that can override the will of the Hellenes and if you think that the Slavs will compromise if we give a little bit of our history and rights, you are deeply wrong. For 40 years they have dug their heels and said “NO...WE ARE MACEDONIANS! PERIOD.” What our failed diplomacy has accomplished so far is inviting them to continue their maximalist policies. Now in the Rose-Routh seminar in Skopje you created a new “Macedonian” identity to suit their goals while you want us to give the stamp of approval to the ignorance, lack of effort, and relevance to the Greek national issues by the same politicians that brought the country to its knees.

Why now do you and your colleagues in ELIAMEP (including former Ambassador to Greece in the US Alexandros Mallias, and ELIAMEP Vice President Thanos Veremis) travel to Skopje and plead with them to accept that they are…Macedonians” in their language? By doing so you try to appease an ultranationalist foreign element by creating identities for them which insult us. Consequently we would like more transparency by ELIAMEP.

Sincerely,


President of the Committee of World Pan-Macedonian Associations – Nina Gatzoulis
Pan-Macedonian Associations USA-Dr. Antonios Papadopoulos, Supreme President
Pan-Macedonian Associations of Australia-Demitris Minas, President
Pan-Macedonian Association of Canada-Haralompos Moutousidis, President
Pan-Macedonian Association of Europe-Archimandrite Panteleimon Tsormpatzoglou, President
Macedonian Chapters of South Africa-Amyntas Papathanasiou, President

AMAC: Truth must prevail in Macedonian issue

Monday, October 11, 2010

11 Oct 2010
Laura Burgoine and Fotis Kapetopoulos
neoskosmos.com

The Australian Macedonian Advisory Committee's (AMAC) annual function, last Friday, was attended by three generations of Greek Australians. Chairman Con Kouremenos welcomed guests while emphasising the changes in AMAC.

"One third of AMAC's membership comprises of third generation Greek Australians," he said.

He said AMAC is an advisory body which assists in the preservation of the truth in the face of the "falsification of history in the area of Macedonian identity".

Professor John Melville-Jones from the University of Western Australia spoke about the "importance of preserving historical truth in light of attempts to distort Macedonian history."

He relayed how he....
 learned Ancient Greek and Latin as a young boy during WWII. After travelling to Greece in the 1960s he became a scholar of Byzantine history.

"What makes Greek culture different to others is its continuity throughout the ages," Prof Melville-Jones said.

He said he felt "sorry" for those from the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia because"they are trying to create an identity from what does not exist - they don't want to be Bulgarian, Albanian or Serbian," he said.

Prof Melville-Jones said FYROM activists are "indoctrinated to believe" in the "myth" and that it was "too easy for myths to be accepted".

Marcus Templar from Chicago has conducted extensive research into Macedonian history. He was critical of the "Greek power elites" for not taking a more aggressive stance against a concerted effort by FYROM to "userp Greek history"

Mr Templar criticised the lack of a real Hellenic lobby in the United States and the way various Non Government Organisations, like the Centre of Democracy and Reconciliation in South Eastern Europe, were acting as trojan horses for anti Hellenic campaigns.

He said the "prevailing opinion is that the Slavic population of FYROM feel humiliated by not having an identity" as a result of the internal conflict between Albanians and Serbs.
"It's not a fault of the Greek people that the Slavic people of FYROM cannot adopt a name," he said.

Among the 150 in attendance were Victorian Parliamentary Secretary for Planning: Jenny Mikakos, member for the federal seat of Higgins: Kelly O'Dwyer, and President of the Greek Orthodox Community of Melbourne and Victoria: Bill Papastergiadis.

Letter from Pan Macedonian Association USA to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton regarding US Ambassador Reeker's comments

Wednesday, September 15, 2010

Secretary of State Hillary R. Clinton
September 9, 2010
State Department United States of America

Dear Madame Secretary,

We, the representatives of the Pan Macedonian Association USA, one of the largest Greek-American organizations are writing this letter to you because we, along with the rest of the Greek community in the United States, are extremely appalled by recent comments made by US Ambassador to Skopje Mr. Reeker in an interview regarding the position of the United States on the name issue of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (the FYROM). In a TV interview (Alpha TV Skopje) the Ambassador stated that the USA government does not provide change of the constitutional name, essentially supporting a double name solution.

According to the official US website of the US Embassy in Skopje which has posted extracts from the interview promoting it as the “US position” Mr. Reeker stated "We do not believe that the solution must involve the change of the constitutional name or the Macedonian Constitution. This is your Constitution. This is your holy text. What is needed is that both sides, Greece and Macedonia, agree to an international reference that will be used in place of FYROM".

Furthermore, Ambassador Reeker calls on the public of Skopje to embrace the US position:

"What we are saying is to look at the real question. And this is not a question about the identity or the language you speak. It is about finding an arrangement that will allow you to maintain your Constitution and your country, and strengthen your state within the framework of the North Atlantic Alliance . . .".

We consider Ambassador Reeker’s comments during the interview with Alpha TV Skopje to be anti-Hellenic and clearly pro-FYROM. As such they are very detrimental to the negotiating process for resolving the name issue between the two countries. We also note that this is not the first time that we see this anti-Hellenic attitude radiating from Ambassador Reeker’s office in Skopje. Just a short while ago the US Department of State’s April 2010 issue of State Magazine, published an article titled “Skopje, Ancient Macedonia builds modern democracy” the contents of which were highly offensive and provocative to Hellenism. A disturbing sentence from the article fallaciously stated that “Today major portions of historical Macedonia lie within neighboring countries.” With such unfortunate comments and deeds, the US Department of State has legitimized Greece’s concerns in the Balkans after the fall of Yugoslavia, and it is championing the irredentist claims of Skopje.

Ambassador Reeker has demonstrated a profound lack of knowledge of the historical truth regarding Macedonia. For the perspective of the truth we would like to refer the Department and Ambassador Reeker to a letter written to President Obama by 367 renowned Classicists, Historians, Archeologists, and Researchers from the world over, deploring the ridiculous irredentist claims and antiquization campaign of historical revisionism from Skopje’s ultranationalist government. This letter can be found with supporting documentation at the following Web site: http://macedonia-evidence.org/.

Ambassador Reeker’s comment that “…this is your constitution, this is your holy text…” is also particularly disturbing. Perhaps the Ambassador feels that The FYROM constitution has a place next to Old and New Testaments, the Talmud, the Koran and other Holy texts! We are sure that Ambassador Reeker knows well that unlike the Holy texts which have existed for centuries, the constitution of The FYROM is relatively new (about 20 years old) and is the word of the people that can be (and has been) changed at the will of the people.

The very concept of a “Macedonian” ethnic identity and language is a direct aggression against the territorial integrity of Greece and the theft of the Macedonian identity (Hellenic in cultural and historical terms) by the Slavs of The FYROM. A “Macedonian Nation” by its very name claims everything that is Macedonian. We consider the inclusion of the name “Macedonia” as part of the final name of The FYROM humiliating to Hellenism and we feel that in order to promote good neighborly relations and a successful Euro-Atlantic integration of The FYROM, the word Macedonia should not identify the country, the nation or the language of the inhabitants of the FYROM.

We feel that their nationality and language should be officially recognized as the nationality or language of the inhabitants of the “Republic of…” The sizable Albanian minority as well as the Roma, Serbs, Bulgarians, Turks and Greeks living in The FYROM clearly proved in the census of 2006 that they do not identify with the so-called “Macedonian” identity. We therefore question which one of those identities and language is Ambassador Reeker referring to?

In order for the destructive concept of Macedonism to expire, it is imperative that the constitutional name and constitution of The FYROM change. The United States albeit a great and powerful country, needs allies, friends and customers in the difficult times lying ahead. It is time for the United States to act as an ally and friend to Greece and turn the page reversing the destructive decision of The FYROM recognition as the Republic of “Macedonia”. Ambassador Edward Stettinius’ comments in the Circular Airgram (868.014 / 26 Dec. 1944) that “This Government considers talk of Macedonian “nation’, Macedonian “Fatherland”, or Macedonian “national consciousness” to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece,” were correct in the 1940s and they are correct now. The current State Department recognizes as “Macedonians” the children of the people that Stettinius in the 40’s clearly stated that they are not Macedonians. We fail to understand this paradox.

Sincerely,

Dr. Papadopoulos, Supreme President
Demitris Chatzis, Supreme Secretary

Cc:
Ambassador Philip Reeker
USA Congress

AMAC Launches Lecture Program 2010

Friday, September 10, 2010

PRESS RELEASE 7 September, 2010

Australian Macedonian Advisory Council (AMAC) Launches Lecture Program

AMAC Organises a Series of Lectures Australia-wide for West Australian classicist professor and Chicago-based expert in Macedonian studies.

The Australian Macedonian Advisory Council (AMAC) is pleased to announce it has arranged for a series of lectures concerning Macedonian history to be given across Australia by two highly esteemed scholars.

The first of those scholars is Professor John Melville-Jones of the University of Western Australia. The professor is 1 of 7 Australian academics to have signed the Macedonia Evidence Petition (see http://macedonia-evidence.org/). The Petition has now been signed by 332 mostly non-Greek academics world-wide and was sent to President Obama, it urges the President to reverse the US’ recognition of the FYROM as the ‘Republic of Macedonia’ and to ‘help the government to Skopje to realise it cannot build a national identity at the expense of historical truth’.

Professor Melville-Jones’ lecture itinerary is as follows:

Friday October 1Australian Macedonian Advisory Council Annual Dinner Function (622 Nicholson St, North Fitzroy), Topic:‘The Importance of Historical Truth’, at 7pm

Monday October 2Greek Orthodox Community of Melbourne & Victoria (Lvl 3/ 168 Lonsdale St), ‘The ‘Island’ of Kassandreia’, at 7.30pm

Tuesday October 5Melbourne University (Theatre 1 in the ICT Building), Topic: 'The Deplorable Life and Disgusting Death of Andronikos I', at 6:30pm


Wednesday October 6Monash University (Clayton Campus,
Building 13a, Theatre M2), Topic: 'The Last Days of Byzantine Macedonia' at 1.00 pm


Thursday October 7Latrobe University (Bundoora Campus, David Myers Building, East wing, Room E125)'The Deplorable Life and Disgusting Death of Andronikos I' at 12.05 pm

The second visiting scholar is Marcus Templar from the University of Chicago. Mr. Templar is a well-known figure in Pan-Macedonian Association USA, having served in the Military Intelligence Corps of the U.S. Army brings interesting perspective to issues related to the South Balkan Region.

Marcus Templar’s lecture itinerary is as follows:

Thursday September 30 – Melbourne
Pan-Macedonian House (470 Queens Pd, Clifton Hill), Topic: ‘The Macedonian Issue Today’ (In Greek), at 7pm

Friday October 1 – Melbourne
Australian Macedonian Advisory Council Annual Dinner Function (622 Nicholson St, North Fitzroy), Topic: ‘The History of Macedonia since 1870’, at 7pm

Sunday October 3 – Canberra
Hellenic Club of Canberra (Aegean Room), Topic: ‘The Importance of Macedonia in Christianity’, at 6pm

Tuesday October 5 – Fremantle
University of Notre Dame, Topic: ‘The Instability of Skopje and NATO’,
Time: TBA

Wednesday October 6 – Adelaide
Odyssey Festival, GOCSA (262 Franklin St, Adelaide),Topic: ‘The transformation of a Slav people to ‘Macedonians’’ at 1.00 pm

Thursday October 7 – Brisbane
Brisbane Greek Club and Convention Centre (29 Edmondstone St, South Brisbane) Topic: ‘The transformation of a Slav people to ‘Macedonians’’, at 7:30pm

Sunday October 10 – Sydney
AHEPA Hall (394 Princes Hwy, Rockdale), Topic and time TBA

AMAC would like to thank the Australian Institute for Macedonian Studies and the Greek Orthodox Community of Melbourne and Victoria for sponsoring the visits of Prof. Melville Jones and Marcus Templar by covering some of the travel and accommodation costs. We would also like to thank all those organisations who will be hosting Marcus Templar while interstate mentioned above, and also the Australian Hellenic Council in Sydney.

Pan-Macedonian Association USA letter to Washington Times

Wednesday, June 16, 2010

June 14, 2010

Re: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jun/3/the-irresponsible-neighbor/
Dear Editor,

We do agree with Richard Rahn’s statement in his June 3, 2010 article in the Washington Times titled, The Irresponsible Neighbor: Greek Profligacy Hits Bulgaria and Macedonia: Whether you are a homeowner or a country, it is better to have responsible rather than irresponsible neighbors”. However it is more important to have neighbors that do not steal their neighbors’ property, money, credit cards and social security numbers. With such articles as Mr. Rahn’s in the Washington Times, the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (the FYROM) is encouraged to commit such crimes: usurp its neighbor’s history, identity and culture.

We found the article profoundly insulting to Greece and to Hellenism as a whole. It is historically unfounded, profoundly biased and misleading. Mr. Rahn should know that Macedonia is a Greek province. We consider any mention of “Macedonia and Greece” as two separate.....
 and unassociated entities, a direct attack of the sovereignty of Greece. What would the reaction be in the US if someone was talking about New England or California as separate and unassociated entities from the United States? Would the US just stand by and not object if Quebec seceded from Canada and decided to rename itself Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine or New England?

Mr. Rahn should know that as per UN Resolutions #817 of April 7, 1993 and  #845 of June 18, 1993, the official name of the country he refers to is "the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia", or simply the FYROM, until a permanent name is agreed between this country and Greece. The Interim Accord was signed by BOTH Greece and the FYROM, and its purpose was to find a name other than “Republic of Macedonia” for the aforementioned country as this was and continues to be the root cause of their dispute.

All the claims Mr. Rahn presents in this article cannot be more further from the truth. Could he perhaps point the scholars of the world towards a reference that corraborates the line: “even though Slavic people have been the majority population for the last 1,300 years in the land that is now the country of Macedonia?”

According to the Turkish census of Hilmi Pasha in 1906, in the area of Macedonia (part of the European Ottoman Empire before the emancipation of this region from the Turks) there was no Macedonian ethnicity recorded:
423,000 or 41.71% Muslims (Turks and Albanians)
259,000 or 27.30% Greeks
178,000 or 18.81% Bulgarians
13,150 or 1.39% Serbs
73,000 or 7.72% others"

It must be noted here that the Turkish archives are quite indicative of the situation since, as the rulers of the area, they would certainly emphasize the existence of a Macedonian nation if such a nation existed. The Greeks living in Macedonia were simply Greeks and nothing else.

The author fails to explain why there was no «Macedonian» army to fight for the rights of the supposed “ethnic Macedonians” during the Balkan Wars of 1912-1913. In addition during the negotiating talks of the Bucharest Treaty of 1913, which determined today’s borders with Greece’s neighbors, there were no representatives of any “Macedonian Nation”.  The 1914 Carnegie Report  (Report of the International Commission to Report on the Causes and Conduct of the Balkan Wars) not only did not record the existence of a “Macedonian” army, but neither did it record the existence of any “ethnic Macedonian” civilians. Doesn’t Mr. Rahn wonder why the Krushevo Manifesto that the people of the FYROM hold so dear did not include any "Macedonian" nationality?  It actually calls all inhabitants of Macedonia, as Macedonians,  “regardless of faith, nationality, sex or conviction.”

Mr. Rahn seems to forget something very important when he states,the people of Macedonia and Bulgaria will face a shrinkage of their markets…” He is forgetting that Greek businesses that exist in the FYROM  have created over 30.000 jobs there. Moreover the country’s economy would fare much better if the FYROM government did not spend millions of dollars in propaganda against its neighbors and propping up statues of Alexander the Great and his father Philip in their futile attempt to antiquate Skopje.

The FYROM contributes to its own instability with its artificial nation-building campaigns at the expense of its rather large and restive Albanian minority which is growing ever so impatient as the days go by. To openly suggest that the FYROM’s economic troubles are due to Greece and that it should enter the European Union in order to save itself is false, amateurish and smacks of propaganda. To highlight this point, Mr. Rahn’s executive association with the Bulgarian American Society should provide some sort of conflict of interest, considering that Bulgaria also does not recognize a “Macedonian nation and language”. 

As to whether Alexander the Great or his father King Philip II were Greek or not, why doesn’t Mr. Rahn take a look at the letter written to President Barack Obama by 364 world-known historians, archeologists and researchers who state: “The answers are clear:  Alexander the Great was Greek, not Slavic, and Slavs and their language were nowhere near Alexander or his homeland until 1000 years later”. Their entire letter and their scholarly documentation can be found at: http://macedonia-evidence.org/obama-letter.html and should be read and wisely used by anyone writing/commenting on this subject.

In order to have peace and stability in that region, FYROM needs to refrain from the identity theft of Macedonia. Thus the FYROM must stop the vicious propaganda through media, internet and any other means of publicity including using biased economists writing for the Washington Times. We consider any mention of Greece as a corrupt country hostile to Hellenism.

Dr. Antonios Papadopoulos                                                       Demitris Chatzis
Supreme President                                                                     Supreme secretary
                                       of the Pan-Macedonian Association